Ukraine: The Ruins and the Greed

Global Voices Online
Sunday, April 26, 2009


LJ user sabeloff posts pictures of the ruined remains of a seaside young pioneer camp in Odesa and shares the recent history of the place (RUS) - which, unfortunately, is a rather common sight in today's Ukraine:

[...] This is an old summer camp near the 13th Station of the Bolshoi Fontan in Odesa. It's totally deserted, which is surprising, because all around it are elite mansions. The demand for such plots used to be VERY high.

The story of this land plot is more or less the following:

The plot together with the camp was acquired for a large amount of money (how much is not known) and it was decided to build a multi-story elite house there. A strange decision, because of the "cool" mansions around, whose owners didn't want to observe a multi-story building instead of the sea out of their windows. The construction of this elite multi-story building was canceled. The owners decided to sell the plot. They were offered $130,000 per [hundred square meters] last summer, but they wanted $150,000. In the fall, they were fine with $130,000, but the buyers lowered their offer to $100,000 and later decided not to buy it at all... In the past half a year, there hasn't been a singe offer for this plot. [...]


Here is one of the comments to this post, by LJ user yelpat:

This isn't financial crisis. This the crisis of greed. Greed has become the post-perestroika morality and those who were able to grab - they've grabbed. And the country is falling apart, and people are fleeing the country exactly because greed has devoured the infrastructure that's supposed to facilitate people's lives.

Moldova: "Making Sense of Recent Events"

Global Voices Online
Monday, April 20, 2009


Below is a follow-up to the three earlier GV posts (here, here, and here) on the blog coverage of the protests and rioting in Chisinau, Moldova, that followed the April 5 election.

Lyndon of Scraps of Moscow flew to Moldova's capital shortly after the violent events of Tuesday, April 7, and wrote this on his return:

[...] Although I missed the real action (which, since it now appears to have resulted in the loss of at least two lives, should perhaps not be trivialized), I felt like I was there for the second-most-important thing: the days during which Moldovans - opposition voters and PCRM voters; educated and otherwise; Russophone, Romania-oriented and otherwise - were doing their best to make sense of what had happened.

I heard a lot of different versions of the events of last Tuesday, none of which was entirely satisfying, and accumulated about 30 pages of notes which I'm now attempting to filter (for rumors, with which the city was rife) and distill into something that might help outsiders make sense of the situation there. [...]


Lyndon's photos from his trip to Chisinau are here.

On April 19, Lyndon wrote that he was "still trying to figure everything out." In this post, however, as well as in at least half a dozen others (tagged "Grape Revolution"), Lyndon has been linking to and commenting on some relevant coverage, background and analysis.

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Here are some more links to bloggers' opinions on the events in Moldova and the coverage they have received:

- April 8 - The LRC Blog: Moldova’s ‘Twitter Revolution’: Made in America?

- April 9 - Windows to Russia: The Twitter Revolution - "Made in America!"

- April 11 - Sublime Oblivion: Twitter Terror in Moldova

- April 14 - Foreign Policy Association's Russia: Revolutionary Relativism: Moldova vs Georgia

- April 15 - Turkish Invasion: Hello Moldova!

- April 16 - Eternal Remont: So just who is the poorest in Europe?

- April 16 - Blogactiv.eu: Moldova, Romania’s Dilemma

- April 17 - Russia Blog: Twitter Madness in Chisinau - What Happened in Moldova?

Moldova: Overview of Blog Coverage of the Protests

Global Voices Online
Thursday, April 9, 2009


For all the attention given to the impact of social media on the protests in Moldova (earlier GV posts on that here and here), there were people both in and outside Moldova who felt that media coverage of the events was inadequate.

Mihai Moscovici wrote this on Twitter on Tuesday, when the rioting in Chisinau was at its height:

People in Moldova don't know about the anti-communist protest in capital. Public TV not covering the protest. Internet down in Moldova.


Kyiv-based blogger MoldovAnn wrote this on Wednesday morning:

[...] I am having a hard time finding good news sources on-line. The New York Times is reporting from Moscow, which to me means they don’t know squat either, their news is as much hearsay as the anything else. And since they have no facts to report, they published an article about the social networking aspects of the protests. Please. Give me some real news!!! [...]


MoldovAnn, like many others, relied to some extent on the information provided by contacts on the ground - and shared it on her blog:

[...] I talked to two friends in Chisinau yesterday - one in her office right in the center of town, in the heart of the protest area; the other at work on the edge of town. The first told me there were reports of injured protesters being transported away by ambulances. Both said the protesters are overwhelming young people. Traffic was blocked in the center, but a few blocks away was supposedly running normally. [...]


Lyndon of Scraps of Moscow, whose excellent updates on the situation and its coverage can be found under the "Grape Revolution" tag, also posted emails from a Chisinau friend; below is part of the first message:

[...] Protesters planned to reassemble in downtown Chisinau at 10am local time today (that is, about an hour ago). The latest news I have is from an email sent around by a friend of ours in Chisinau a few hours ago:

It is 7am in Chisinau and a fresh day is about to start.

A quick update on the night's events:

1. Parliament building is no longer in flames

2. The night in Chisinau's center was peaceful

3. The major local news networks either are not allowed to work by the Communist party or are actually getting some rest until the later in the morning

Thank you for sending me updates and news on Moldova from the international press. I find that the Western press has been very professional at capturing the reality on the ground and the reasons for why the youth are on the streets. As NY times put it - it is a generational clash - the youth (who voted mostly anti-communist, for lack of job opportunities in Moldova or even abroad this year in the context of the global crisis) and the older generation nostalgic after the "stability" offered by the current and former Communist governments.

[...]

One last note for this early morning - this is the FIRST Even large scale protest that turned into violence in Moldova since 1989, when the first large-scale meetings were taking place to support Moldova's independence and union with Romania.

Moldovans on the whole are a very peaceful nation, and would rather sit at the table with you over a home-made glass of wine [...] than take to the streets. [...] The opposition promised to continue the peaceful protests in the main square and have been asking now for families to join in in a sign of solidarity. The lady in the Parliament who was thought dead is actually well. So it seems that in spite of all the damage inflicted on the Parliament and the Presidency, thankfully no one has lost his/her life.
[...]


Robert Amsterdam's blog, too, had a selection of messages from "colleagues" in Moldova's capital:

[...] Do you see what's going on here? I barely got home (I live in the center). God only knows where my son is, they're shutting down mobile communications. They're shooting, blood is being spilled. My God. The situation is out of control.

They're protesting the results of the voting. But there are more civil ways to do this. Today they threw the children out of the lyceums and universities to make revolution. The Romanian flag is already flying over the Parliament. The Presidentura [building where the President sits] has been ransacked. I don't know where the fool is holed up. These are children!!!
[...]


Below are some more links to blog coverage of the protests.

Photos:

- April 7 photos from Chisinau - at Kosmopolito.

- More photos by LJ user le_trefle, posted in LiveJournal's md_community - and this observation (RUS):

[...] I was shocked by how, just 200 meters away, such different actions can be taking place. Across the street from the government building, they are calling for civility and calmness, while inside the parliament building, they are burning furniture, breaking windows and looting all they can. [...]


- Reuters photos - at LJ user drugoi's blog.

More "names" for the "revolution" in Moldova (in addition to Evgeni Morozov's "Twitter Revolution" and Lyndon's "Grape Revolution":

- "Candle Revolution" - by gabrielaionita of Power&Politics Weblog:

[...] Demonstration of young people from Kishinev started as a viral message on the Internet. That stated on April 6 Day of National Mourning, and young people were called to light a candle in the Great Square of Chisinau. [...]


More on the candles - here:

Cezar Maroti [writes] this [on Twitter]: "In Moldova apparently almost 200.000 dead people voted for the Communists. The protesters were right to declare today a mourning day."


- “Orphans’ Revolution” - by Dumitru Minzarari:

[...] Now the communists and their Eastern “partners” are building a huge media myth to discredit the pure ideals of Moldovan youth willing nothing more than freedom and respect for their rights. Their protests were labeled the “Orphans’ Revolution” because under the Communist government close to a third of Moldovan citizens (their parents) went abroad to earn money for a living. [...]


A couple posts on Natalia Morari, who is believed to be one of the organizers of the protests:

- OpenDemocracy.net posts a background on Morari and translates from her blog - here.

According to OpenDemocracy.net, "no one in the capital Chisinau knows where [Morari] is. Her mobile phone is switched off." However, according to Morari's husband (RUS), Russian journalist Ilya Barabanov (LJ user barabanch), she is currently "in a safe place" - while Moldova's interior ministry was "lying" when it announced that Morari had been detained.

- Russian youth opposition leader Oleg Kozlovsky urges "American and European leaders" to "speak up in support of peaceful solution in Moldova and call both sides to refrain from violence":

[...] The governement is now in control of Chisinau and accuses the opposition of attempting a coup. Communist President Vladimir Voronin may now use the protests to crack down on the civil and political activists and the arrests are already said to have begun. Organizers of the Monday action, like youth leader Natalia Morar, deny the accusations and explain that they tried to prevent violence. However, the government doesn’t seem to be listening. If the crackdown continues, the whole democratic opposition in Moldova may be beheaded and the already threatened democracy effectively destroyed. [...]


Miscellaneous blog links:

- Updates and analysis at Nicu Popescu's Neighbourhood (part of EUobserver Blogs)

- Ari Rusila of BalkanPerspective (part of Blogactiv.eu) writes about "some possible consequences" of what's happened in Moldova:

[...] Moldova’s parliament will select a new President as [Vladimir Voronin] is not eligible according law to be reselected anymore. However he probably will get new influential post – maybe PM or Speaker of Parliament – so his policy will continue. This means no to NATO, no to reunification with Romania, some but not full cooperation with EU, continuing decline of GUUAM (cooperation body supported by US energy giants and military-industrial-complex) and frozen situation with separatist regions. [...]


- A Russian take (RUS) on the same issue - by LJ user misssing-link (Yuri Tyurin):

What's happening in Moldova [is good]. If Voronin stays in power, he'll lose international support in any case, and Russia will begin to get closer to him and simultaneously blackmail him with [the possibility of an Orange Revolution scenario], forcing him into recognition of [Transnistria]. [...]


Some "dark humor" inspired by the protests:

- Evgeni Morozov:

Here is also some dark Twitter humor: "Protests in Moldova "explode, thanks to Twitter". To say thanks, authorities will only imprison 140 characters at a time".


- LJ user vsm_md (RUS):

To one of today's news items - "Today, protesters in Chisinau stormed the building of Moldova's presidential administration and raised the European Union's flag over it" - I'd like to add this: "Somewhat later, the European Union showed up and took its flag down."

Moldova: More on Twitter's Impact on the Protests

Global Voices Online
Thursday, April 9, 2009


Day 3 of the post-election protests in Moldova's capital turned out to be comparatively quiet. Mihai Moscovici wrote this on Twitter on Wednesday morning:

No crowds today. Very few protesters now in the main square in Chisinau, Moldova [...]


And here is one of Moscovici's latest tweets, posted early morning Thursday:

No protesters in the main square in Chisinau. Now all is quite and calm in Chisinau, Moldova [...]


Discussion of the role of social media in organization and coverage of the events in Chisinau, which began as the initially peaceful Monday's protests grew violent on Tuesday, has continued throughout Wednesday as well.

Evgeni Morozov posted an update to his post on "Twitter Revolution" on Foreign Policy's Net Effect:

[...] 3. It really helped that even non-technology people in the U.S. and much of Western Europe are currently head over heels in love with Twitter. It's really good that the Moldovan students didn't organize this revolution via Friendster or LiveJournal (which is still a platform for choice for many users in Eastern Europe). If they did, they would never have gotten as much attention from the rest of the world. [...]


Rootwork left this comment, noting that this observation by Morozov appeared "particularly misguided":

[...] This perspective is an example of collapsing the strategy and the tool. More specifically: Getting attention from the rest of the world is not automatically the objective of any given social change movement.

Most social change organizers know this. There are moments when you want to focus on building awareness and/or getting media attention, but that's often not the primary focus of the campaign. In the case of the Moldovan students, it could be that what was most needed was a way to get organizers to identify and strategize with one another — in which case Twitter would have been a very poor (or at least fantastically blunt) tool.

Such perspective is possible only if you think of Twitter as one possible tool, perfect for use in some strategies and rather ineffective in others. A near-religious belief in Twitter (or any technology) as a strategy leads to a narrowing of the actual strategy — getting the world to pay attention becomes the goal, because, hey, that's what Twitter can be effective at doing!

In this case, organizers might have gotten attention from beyond Moldova with a few dozen Twitterers, but failed at their primary goal of making opposition to the regime visible to other Moldovans.


More thoughts on this from Rootwork - here.

Also, Daniel Bennett joined the Moldova Twitter discussion on Frontline Club's blog - here, and the New York Times' The Lede posted an interview with Mihai Moscovici - here.

Moscovici posted this tweet a few hours ago, and it seems like a good wrap-up for this discussion:

Western media don't understand #pman isn't about Twitter. #pman is about anti-communist protest in Chisinau, Moldova to demand re-elections.

Moldova: "Grape Revolution" / "Twitter Revolution"

Global Voices Online
Wednesday, April 8, 2009


Peaceful protests that took place in Moldova's capital Chisinau on Monday, following the victory of the ruling Communist Party in the April 5 election, turned violent on Tuesday, as protesters stormed and set fire to the parliament building.

Lyndon of Scraps of Moscow has been posting updates and translations of the blog, Twitter and media coverage of the situation in Moldova: in this comprehensive and insightful post, Lyndon links to some 30 different sources, and there is more relevant content to be found on his blog, tagged "Grape Revolution" ("If the protesters manage to hold out and dig in downtown, we'll be searching for a name - perhaps it could be the Grape Revolution, or the Wine Revolution, in a nod to Moldova's most famous non-human export.").

Nosemonkey's EUtopia and Julien Frisch have more links to coverage of the protests. Here's one observation from Nosemonkey's EUtopia:

[...] But with both internet and phone networks down in Moldova itself, reliable information is hard to come by. The major Western television news networks are - so far - silent on events in this small, largely ignored country, and so (as so often) Google News is your best source for press reports. It’s all strangely reminiscent of the early stages of Ukraine’s Orange Revolution four and a half years ago, where the attention of the Western press was similarly slow to turn to the East, and information was similarly confused and confusing. [...]


Mihai Moscovici and kosmopolit are among those who have been posting regular English-language updates on Twitter; the latter also has two blog posts by a Chisinau-based guest-blogger - here and here.

While it's too early to speak of the outcome of the post-election uprising, one thing is sure: the impact of social media on facilitation and coverage of the protests in Moldova - which is known as "the poorest country in Europe" - has been outstanding.

Evgeni Morozov wrote this on Foreign Policy's net.effect blog, in a post titled "Moldova's Twitter Revolution":

[...] Will we remember the events that are now unfolding in Chisinau not by the color of the flags but by the social-networking technology used?

If you asked me about the prospects of a Twitter-driven revolution in a low-tech country like Moldova a week ago, my answer would probably be a qualified "no". Today, however, I am no longer as certain. If you bothered to check the most popular discussions on Twitter in the last 48 hours, you may have stumbled upon a weird threat of posts marked with a tag "#pman" (it's currently listed in Twitter's "Trending Topics" along with "Apple Store", Eminem, and Easter).

No, "pman" is not short for "pacman"; it stands for "Piata Marii Adunari Nationale", which is Romanian name for the biggest square in Chisinau, Moldova's capital. [...]

[...]

Ever since yesterday's announcement that Moldova's communists have won enough votes to form a government in Sunday's elections, Moldova's progressive youth took to the streets in angry protests. As behooves any political protest by young people today, they also turned to Facebook and Twitter to raise awareness about the planned protests and flashmobs. [...]

[...]

The related posts on Twitter are being posted at a record-breaking rate - I've been watching the Twitter stream for the last 20 minutes - and I see almost 200 new Twitter messages marked with "pman" (virtually all of them in Romanian, with only one or two in English). In the last few hours there have also emerged several "smart" aggregators of posts on the subject, like this one - they have to contextualize what exactly is happening -- and this one for YouTube videos. Many blog posts are also being updated in real-time - minute by minute - check this one. There are also a plenty of videos on YouTube and photos, including those uploaded to Facebook. [...]


Andy of Siberian Light quoted from Morozov's post and made this comment about Twitter - "the latest darling of the Revolutionati":

[...] Twitter is certainly how I found out about today’s protests. But I do wonder how much Twitter has really been used to generate the protests. More likely, I think, it’s been used (and used brilliantly) to get the word out to people outside of Moldova, and to make the world sit up and take notice. [...]


Rotterdam-based "networking enthusiast" Cezar Maroti believes it is somewhat misleading to label the events in Moldova as "Twitter Revolution" only. On Twitter, he wrote, here and here:

There are only 71 Twitter users in Moldova http://ow.ly/2idK This cannot have been orchestrated through twitter! [...]

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We DON'T have a Twitter Revolution in Moldova. It's a Social Network Rev. Other SNs are also used: Y!mess Youtube Flickr Facebook [...]

Russia, UAE: Sulim Yamadayev - Dead or Alive?

Global Voices Online
Sunday, April 5, 2009


According to some sources, Sulim Yamadayev, former Chechen rebel commander and former commander of the Russian Vostok ("East") Battalion, was assassinated in Dubai on March 28. According to other sources, he survived the shooting. (More background info - here, at RFE/RL's Caucasus Report.)

Below is a selection of Russophone bloggers' reactions to the conflicting reports about the attack on Yamadayev.

LJ user voinodel - March 29:

All kinds of unofficial rumors here. That one - or not? Killed him - or wounded him?
According to our own very reliable information, Sulim Yamadaeyv is in coma now.

Update: Life.ru writes that he'll survive. So perhaps it's not all that bad. [...]


LJ user voinodel - March 30:

Freedom to choose

Killed.
Alive.

Both have [Yamadayev's brother Isa] as a source. The reports are half an hour apart.

[...]

P.S. Searched the web. Entered "Yamadayev alive" on Yandex [search]. [Nothing.] Not a single item. If Life.ru turns out to be right and Yamadayev is indeed alive, it is unlikely to change the situation in any way. No one will believe Yamadayev now. Interfax reported, RIA Novosti reported, Channel One reported. Go and die, Suleiman Bekmirzayevich [Sulim Yamadayev], don't interfere with our work.

- But what about Life.ru? - Suleiman Bekmirzayevich would ask.
- Life.ru is yellow press, - they'll respond to him. [Not trustworthy.] Read RIA Novosti instead. You've died. On Monday. You'll be buried in the Emirates. So be ready in the morning.


LJ user savsane - March 30:

Once upon a time, there lived three brothers. Three Heroes of Russia. They were all killed. First, the eldest one. Then... et cetera. Recalled recently that Yamadayev had build a chapel in Moscow region. On the territory of the Military Academy. None of the graduates of this institution had it in him to do it, except Yamadayev.

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agitator_mass:

At the Dubai hospital, they are saying that Yamadayev is alive.

savsane:

Then this will be the 19th failed assassination attempt at Sulim Yamadayev. If he survives.

uliana:

Are you sure it's the 19th?

savsane:

Even the main hero of this will not have the answer for you )


LJ user orkhan - March 31:

Spent the whole day calling a former commander of a former intelligence unit of the former Vostok Battalion on his cell phone every 15 minutes:

- Any news?
- He's alive.
- Are you sure?
- Absolutely.
- We're getting different information here...

I kept going online and reading [numerous] reports to him, which claimed that it was Sulim Yamadayev who died at a Dubai hospital.

- [These are lies], he's alive.
- But perhaps he has died already, but they've just not reported to you yet - three [bullet wound] holes, two next to the heart.
- Calm down, if something happens, I'll be the first one to know, and Sulim can bear things that are even worse.

It seemed to me that he began to sound somewhat unsure, and the internet kept going: died, died, died. There were hundreds of items, it was being reported that his death had been officially confirmed by the [Russian consul in Dubai], then they started quoting relatives...

By 6 PM, I lost patience and [arranged to meet with the source] [...].

- Tell me the truth.
- Alive.
- Are you sure?
- Half an hour ago, they were in his hospital room, he tried to talk, could recognize people, and was even trying to smile.
- [...] My [journalist] colleagues are calling me, the gates [of Yamadayev's house] in [Gudermes, Chechnya] have been opened to receive mourners, there's an official confirmation of his death...
- And who is confirming it?
- [A person named] Krasnogor from our consulates in the Emirates.
- Listen, who do you believe [...], me or [some obscure guy].

I didn't go back to work, went straight home, thinking: How much longer will the guys who knew [Yamadayev] in person refuse to believe, despite everything, and tell each other secretly during get-togethers: "Sulim is actually alive, this whole Dubai story is a good legend for a retreat."

When I returned home, I turned on my laptop and did a web search on Yamadayev - a long row of died, died, died ended with ["alive"]. And really, why did I decide to trust Krasnogor...


LJ user barabanch - March 31:

A source reports: an hour ago, Sulim Yamadayev was alive. As he is now.

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aleshru:

So who is dead?

barabanch:

Anyone but Sulim.


On April 2, LJ user tverdyi-znak posted a 17-entry summary timeline of the rather confusing coverage of the attack in the Russian media and wrote:

[...] They still can't decide for sure whether he's alive or dead, and this isn't an April 1 joke, it's a pretty gloomy reality... By now it feels surreal. [...]


Below are some more reactions from Russophone and Anglophone bloggers.

LJ user sapojnik:

Reading through the news, I see this headline: "The names of Sulim Yamadayev's killer are now public. All are Russian."
And right after this, another item: "[General Headquarters of the Russian Armed Forces] has lost four leading generals."

"Wow," I thought.


LJ user abpaximov:

Among the versions of the assassination of Sulim Yamadayev I haven't yet seen the one stating that it was done by the Georgian special service as revenge for his role in the 2008 war with South Ossetia. Or have I just missed it?


LJ user dobrokhotov:

So, [Ramzan Kadyrov] has taken the Russian troops out of Chechnya without firing a single shot and has killed his last rival, Sulim Yamadayev (a reminder: not long before that, Kadyrov's people shot his brother, [Ruslan Yamadayev], in the center of Moscow, and somewhat earlier they also killed [Movladi Baisarov] on Leninsky Prospekt [in Moscow]). Whether it was them who killed [Anna Politkovskaya] or not, either way today there's not a single more or less public figure left who is critical of the mass murderer, former [Shamil Basayev]'s fighter, [honorary member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences], "Hero of Russia," president of Chechnya Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov.


Adrian Blomfield, the Daily Telegraph's Moscow correspondent, wrote this on the newspaper's blog - and posted these Twitter updates:


12:14 PM Mar 30th
:

Sulim Yamadayev shot, wounded in Dubai. Could this tip Chechnya back into turmoil? It's the latest but most serious shooting outside Russia

12:16 PM Mar 30th:

Yamadayev shooting is evidence that Chechnya's gangster war is being fought outside Chechnya. Killings too in Moscow, Vienna and Istanbul.

12:18 PM Mar 30th:

Will Yamadayev shooting prompt world leaders to press Putin to rein in Kadyrov? Let's hope so. The body count is getting ridiculous.


Finally, La Russophobe has an "editorial" on the Dubai shooting, followed by a discussion in the comments section - here.

Russia: Lenin Statue Bombed in St. Petersburg

Global Voices Online
Thursday, April 2, 2009


What one saw in this April 1 post (RUS) by LJ user drugoi looked like an April Fool's Day joke at first - a Photoshop prank, most likely: a photo of a statue of Vladimir Lenin in St. Petersburg, the Bolshevik leader's back to the Finland Train Station, with a huge hole torn in the lower part of his bronze overcoat. But the photo was taken by AP's Dmitry Lovetsky, and there were more available, from other sources (RUS), taken from different vantage points, so it must have been for real. And it was.

LJ user drugoi posted this comment to the photo:

What's humbly called "the back" in news agencies' reports is actually [Lenin's butt]. I don't think anyone will outdo the [St. Petersburgers' joke] today.


The post has generated nearly 800 comments thus far; below are some of them.

vad_nes:

[...] Do you consider vandalism a joke?

drugoi:

The monument by the train station is vandalism. :-)

[...]

Yet another "volodka" [a short and playful - or, in this context, disrespectful - form of "Vladimir"], there are thousands of them all over Russia. One more, one fewer.

vad_nes:

[...] First of all, the monument was erected at the time when there were no "thousands" of others whatsoever. This is one of the first and the best monuments to, as you say, "Volodka," and, unlike thousands of inferior copies, it is really a serious work of art created by world-renowned masters. [Vladimir Shchuko and Vladimir Gelfreikh] have also worked on the building of the [Lenin Library in Moscow], for example. Shall we [bomb] that as well? Why feel sorry for totalitarian art.

drugoi:

[...] It's not me who's saying this, it's a professional term used by painters/sculptors of that period. They've [littered] everything with these "volodkas," squeezed the image of the "genius of all progressive humankind" wherever they could. And I know well how it was all done, better than you do. [...]

vad_nes:

[...] "That period," as far as I understand, is the 1920s, when the monument was erected, isn't it? I doubt you know those years well, better than I do.

But I'm not going to argue, it doesn't seem worth it. It's just amusing when someone who is not silly in general does not see the difference between [sculptors producing low-quality] "volodkas" - who have indeed littered the whole country - and the masters of architecture.

drugoi:

[...] Of course, not. I spent much time around the people who worked in the [monumental style] in the 1950s and later. [Makes no difference], absolutely. A whole army [of such artists] fed off "volodkas" for decades. [...] The masters, they also needed to feed themselves. And the blast, of course, is vandalism. But it was just too funny, and [I don't feel sorry for the monument at all.] [...]

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kaspar_hauser:

It's idiotic, of course, to consider vandalism funny, but in general I now feel somewhat sorry for you, because of your defectiveness.

krywal:

It is defective to love Lenin.

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ales_wyr:

According to this logic, the whole city of [St. Petersburg, formerly Leningrad], beginning from its construction, is "vandalism." It stands on [human] bones. Alas, everything is so intertwined here... Yes, the Bolsheviks were treading on graves more furiously and shamelessly, but they weren't the first ones in this city... I can't think any kind thoughts about perpetuating [Lenin's memory], but explosions - it's their [the Bolsheviks'] method [...]. And there is nothing to be happy about. :(


This being April 1 (known as the Day of Laughter in this part of the world) - and despite the fact that the repairs of the monument might cost (RUS) St. Petersburg from 6 to 8 million rubles (from $177,000 to $236,000) - many bloggers chose to abstain from overly serious discussions of the incident. LJ user fildz, for example, re-posted the AP photo from LJ user drugoi's blog and held a Best Caption contest (RUS). Here are some of the entries:

annamasterova:

The window into Russia [refers to Peter the Great's "Window into Europe"]

stcatharine:

Avrora strikes back [refers to the symbol of the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, the Aurora Cruiser]

alber:

The revolutionary energy of the masses has found a way out

theophil:

[...] On April 1, [St. Petersburgers] go for below-the-belt jokes