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Russia: Conscript Seeks Asylum in Georgia

Global Voices Online
Thursday, January 29, 2009


Aleksandr Glukhov, a 21-year-old Russian conscript, has asked for asylum in the Republic of Georgia to escape the "unbearable conditions" in the Russian army. One of Glukhov's media appearances took place as he was dining at a McDonald's restaurant in Tbilisi. Russian officials claim that Glukhov was captured by Georgian armed forces in South Ossetia, where he was performing his compulsory military service, and taken to the Georgian capital. Quite a few people in Russia seem to consider Glukhov "a traitor." Below are some of the reactions from the Russophone blogosphere.

LJ user shurigin:

[...] The defense ministry is currently [trying to figure out how all this could have happened]. To begin with, it turns out that this soldier is a conscript. How he got to South Ossetia, despite the order to staff military units with contract soldiers - no one can answer this question coherently.


LJ user introvertoff:

I was on the way home late at night yesterday. On a [bus], in addition to me, there was a bus driver, a couple of men and a couple of women, aged 50 to 60. The radio was playing the news:

"And, finally, metropolitan Kirill becomes the finalist of the "choose the patriarch" game," - the radio was saying something like this, only in a more formal style. [...] The bus filled with happy noise - women and men started a joyful discussion about how they worried, how they hoped, how they prayed. They are happy that the Church will now turn to the right path, etc.

And suddenly! They started talking about the news of the deserter Sergeant Glukhov on the radio. And the happy noise was replaced with angry cries - "How could he!", "A dirty deserter!", "He's exchanged his motherland for junk food!", "And he was under oath!", "Impale him, the dog, impale him!" Orthodox Christians, who were [wiping tears of joy] a minute ago, turned into bloodthirsty fanatics demanding punishment for a traitor! [...]


LJ user drugoi:

[...] He's not a traitor, of course. Just a fool, immature, a boy. He doesn't belong in the army, he should be making sand pies in a sandbox still.


LJ user mike67:

Maybe Glukhov deserves condemnation, but how to do it when you are weeping with laughter? [...]

When it turns out that a soldier has defected to the enemy because his unit didn't have a bath and the commander was cursing when orders weren't carried out... No one believes this. They are looking for politics, suspect pressure from the Georgian side. What pressure? Wake up: it's the same people who interpret a request to take out the garbage as an attempt on their human dignity. This is a free generation, [...], and they sure know about honor and dignity a lot more than we do.

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No one is getting it: it's not politics, it's an infantile generation, raised on [...] an opportunity to take a loan for a plasma-panel display - or even a car - right after high school. [...] The idea that every person deserves the best [...] is spreading around the world like a virus. [...]


A note on the living conditions in the Russian army, by LJ user shabolovka38, in a comment to LJ user grazy-gunner's post:

[...] And one woman there says: Yes, the conditions are bad. They live in tents, heated by stoves.

And where are soldiers supposed to live? In a cottage?


LJ user budimir:

Aleksandr Glukhov: «I'm loving it!».

McDonald's has launched a creative [...] advertisement: a Russian soldier, unable to bear the hardships of service in South Ossetia, where they didn't feed him properly, deserts to the Georgian side and finds happiness there [...].


LJ user merjageko:

I wonder if Russia is going to send tanks to Georgia, to save Sergeant Glukhov? Because he's being tortured with McDonald's there...


LJ user neznaika-nalune asks:

Tell me, is an out-of-the-way McDonald's with peeling walls a new symbol of the "famed Georgian hospitality" and the "famous Georgian cuisine?"


LJ user taganay replies:

This kind of hospitality befits this kind of a defector.

Russia: Bloggers' Perspectives on Xenophobia

Global Voices Online
Saturday, November 3, 2007


Wherever you click in the Russian blogosphere these days, you always seem to end up reading posts on nationalism, ethnicity, xenophobia, ethnic violence and other related subjects.

In October, apart from discussing the famous DNA scientist's race comments and the U.S. president's DNA comments, Russian bloggers dealt with at least two xenophobic attacks - one that took place in Spain, and the other one domestic.

LJ user drugoi, a top-ranking Russian blogger, highlighted the case of Sergi Xavier, a 21-year-old Spaniard accused of assaulting a 16-year-old Ecuadorian girl on a commuter train in Barcelona (see video of the attack here).

Below are some of the readers' reactions (RUS) to drugoi's post:

golovorez:

>a young man sitting nearby pretended as if nothing was going on.

Spanish commuters resemble Muscovites on the subway so much!

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stulchik:

Funny, when they are beating someone on our commuter trains, no one sees anything, too, even if the leg of the attacker flies by right next to your nose.

Only there [in Spain], trains look better, while ours are so very cold. [...]

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wunder_bar:

The guys who is sitting looks like an immigrant, too. Maybe his turn [for the beating] was next.

fresquete:

Yes, he's an immigrant, most likely from Peru.

la_campanilla:

From Argentina, they reported it on Radio Cadena COPE. [...]

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anastassia_jm:

That's how the police should be working! They found the criminal within a couple days, and moreover, the police did all the work. Without multiple appeals, requests and demands from the victim.

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racoon_defender:

Why scream about some Spanish jerks for the whole world to hear? We've got enough of folks like this in Russia.

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donna_lita:

I know for sure from my own experience - in Moscow, they'll be beating you, and the passer-by will be passing you right by. And it doesn't matter if you're a girl or a boy, it's enough that you look different. In the subway, even the cops don't risk getting involved.

Here's what I've recalled, by the way - [National Bolsheviks] used to entertain themselves this way on the subway: [...] you're going down the escalator, they approach from behind, put their hands on the handles, push their legs up and hit you on the back. I myself once saw an Asian girl fly down [the escalator] on Frunzenskaya [subway station]. But those were two boys of around 14, they were yelling something about the yellow... [-skinned] who have flooded Moscow, and I was with my husband and two of his friends, and we caught these guys and took them to the police room, and I was helping the girl they attacked... No case was opened, the cops were trying to get it off their shoulders as quickly as possible.

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rdp4v:

Well, here it goes. Spain, Spain. And here's Russia for you. A comrade lovingly gathers reports on killings and beatings of non-Russians. His [identity] is perfectly known, and he's not really trying hard to hide. But he's not pushing himself into the open, either. Instead, he is doing a constant, painstaking and inspired job of cultivating the feeling of ethnic and racial hatred. Any expert would be forced to deem half of his blog posts as pertaining to Article 282 [of the Russian Criminal Code: Incitement of National, Racial, or Religious Enmity]. And so what happens? Nothing. [...]
http://white-patriot.livejournal.com/323384.html


The last comment in the selection above refers to an extremely intolerant discussion of the recent attacks on non-Russians in Moscow, which resulted in the deaths of at least two people: a 46-year-old chess champion from Yakutia and a 23-year-old ethnic Armenian drummer.

LJ user mike67 posted this analysis of the situation (RUS):

Not just the disgusting orgy of the "white patriots" following the murder of the Yakut chess player, but also the attempts of certain brave people [...] to argue with them, show how little understood is the essence of what's going on. Stories of the kind of "'aliens' are humans, too," arguments about economic advantages of migration, calling to common sense and other feelings in general - all this doesn't make sense, because the problem of nationalism goes a lot deeper than nationalism itself.

The problem is the formation of well-organized gangs that regard ethnic purges as nothing but an accidental kind of occupation. In a megalopolis, especially on the outskirts, we've got armies of idle teenagers, who gather in large groups to fulfill their age-specific need to assert themselves. Modern means of communication transform the usual gangs of hooligans that control the neighborhoods into mobile extraterritorial entities - the real gangs, that is, whose analogue in the youth circles exists only among football fans.

But fan groups are constructed according to the "predator-predator" model, which keeps the system from further growth. Transferring aggression onto foreigners creates the "predator-victim" model, whose growth has no limits. Competition among groups demands more daring "feats" - and this is why it is logical that the attackers have gone from beatings to killings in the past few years.

It's important, but is not taken into account, that Nazism for them is an excuse, not the reason - the most convenient way of expressing themselves rather than part of a static worldview. This indeed is a competition between groups - and that's why they regularly record their "actions" on video and actively discuss them on forums. Hence, the attacks not on those who have the most competing interests, but on the most "conspicuous" representatives of the "aliens": it's obvious that the ideological explanation of the attacks through the necessity of "cleaning up the space" for Russians is absolutely inapplicable to the regular attacks on [black] students. That's why it's pointless to try to convince these young people that they wouldn't replace the Tajiks at construction sites.

All this was very evident in the discussion of the killing of the Yakut - who had been mistaken for a Korean (this is literally how many critics of the Nazis were asking, "What for if he was one of ours [a Russian citizen]?). The following statements (I'm quoting from memory): "What, do you expect them to ask him to show his passport?", "The main thing is for the guys to learn how to kill, and the material [on which to practice] is irrelevant." [...]


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For a foreigner's view on racism and xenophobia in Russia, please visit MoscowThroughBrownEyes, an English-language blog. Here is an excerpt from one of the recent entries:

[...] one of Beyonce’s dancers, identified only by his first name Cliff, was attacked at a restaurant on Tverskaya after being subjected to racial slurs. The incident took place just after the victory of Russia’s football team over England. Apparently, a drunk Russian took Cliff for an England fan and began to ridicule his supposed country and skin color. [...]

Before we start thinking that all Russians are raving racists, the thread on this incident at the Russian-language fan site InDaRnB reveals a fascinating discussion on what the attack on Cliff tells us about racial politics here [...]:

mib: That’s it, Beyonce is never coming to Moscow again. For real, these football fans are goats. [Note: that sounds harsher in Russian.]

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Tania Mega-Popa: Fu, I hate these fans. They don’t have one gram of brains. It’s not just Beyonce who won’t come to us anymore, but many more. It’s shameful.


[...]

Vladimir: [In response to Irreplaceable] You have too low of an opinion of Russia. Racism is present everywhere and among us no more so than in America.

Li Key: Yeah, what's there to say. I think that it doesn’t depend on the country, but on the up-raising. Everywhere has its defectives, though it looks like we have a larger share… I feel bad for the dude.
[...]


And here is another relevant snippet, from an earlier post by MoscowThroughBrownEyes:

“I hate the Chinese.” She leaned in. “Tell me, what people do you hate?”

I dodged, “I hate rude people.”

“But what people [narod] do you hate?”

“I can’t really think of any people as a whole that I hate.”

Then I tried to allow her some room to back-pedal, “Do you mean that you hate the policies of the Chinese government, not the people?”

“I have no problem with the government. It’s a good government. But there are so many Chinese! They are intent on Siberia, you know.”

I couldn’t help but poke back a little at this point, “Nu, what’s the problem? You have a demographic crisis, they have some people who want to work in Siberia—the solution seems obvious.”

“But they don’t assimilate. And they will destroy our culture.”


Apparently more than a few Russians share the “concerns” of the Muscovite I was talking with a few weeks ago [...]