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Russia: Bloggers Discuss the Market Bombing in North Ossetia

Global Voices Online
Saturday, September 11, 2010


A suicide car bombing outside a market in Vladikavkaz, the capital of the Republic of North Ossetia-Alania, killed at least 18 people and wounded over 100 on Sept. 9. The attack is not the first one to occur at this location (62 people were killed there in 1999, 12 in 2008); it also came just days after the sixth anniversary of the 2004 school siege tragedy in Beslan, a town 15 km north of Vladikavkaz.

North Ossetian bloggers' initial reactions to Thursday's market blast reflected their exasperation with the ongoing violence in the region.

LJ user liza-valieva, a Vladikavkaz-based journalist, wrote (RUS):

An explosion at the central market, again. Half an hour ago. Could be heard even here.

There are the dead and the wounded.

Will it ever end?

Below is one exchange from the comments section:

maxialla:

I've never been a supporter of this point of view - "[the best way out is to move elsewhere]" - but right now it [appears rational] :( [...]

liza_valieva:

It is always possible to move, but people I care about will still stay behind, and no matter where I am, I'll worry about them just as much.

Moscow-based LJ user glazastikk wrote (RUS):

[...] My sister said that papa was fine, and then I got through to him myself, asked him to leave the market, because I was afraid there'd be a second explosion. [...]

And then I was scared for all those who have failed to get through to their folks on the phone. And I keep thinking of it ever since [...].

[...]

I'm sick of being scared and worried. And I don't see a way out. [...]

LJ user manavar, a Vladikavkaz-based medical student, was at the local hospital at the time of the blast. He wrote (RUS):

[...] Ambulances, [public mini-buses], regular cars were rushing in. We unloaded a woman whose arm had been blown off. Then there was another one, missing an eye. Seventeen people were brought in. Two corpses. One person, already dead, was lying on the floor of a yellow mini-bus. A man. One woman died at the ER. Most people had shrapnel cuts. [...]

As always, there was not enough medications. [...] For the first hour and a half, there was chaos at [the hospital], strangers were walking around. Things got better only when the police had cordoned off the hospital.

People were saying that at the school near the site of the bombing all the windows had been blown out and the children had been cut with shrapnel.

[Damn!] When will it all end!

In another post, LJ user manavar wrote (RUS) about his mother's experience that day:

[...] Mama was at the market at that time, she was walking around the aisles inside and was just planning to go to a store [...]. She stayed on [inside] for a second longer to look at the vegetables. The blast was so powerful that her ears got plugged. [...] Mama managed to squeeze herself into some niche and thus avoided the stampede. People ran, fell down, got up, ran again. Hundreds of people running from the area where black smoke was rising; only a few running towards that area. Some in order to help, others because they'd left their dear ones there. Only when the crowd receded, mama was able to get out of the niche and also went towards the exit.

Her hands are still shaking. And I can still see that woman with one eye missing. She is somebody's mother, too.

LJ user manavar's first post was featured (RUS) in the Radio Echo of Moscow's blog section. He admitted that such publicity upset him, but his post also sparked a discussion that highlighted a rather common perception of Russia's North Caucasus as a mismanaged "someplace else":

osokin:

You constantly have terrorist attacks over there! So why was there "not enough medications" then? Who is responsible for the supplies?

crafty:

I am a Muscovite. And it's OVER HERE in Russia that there are terrorist attacks and it's OVER HERE that there is chaos with medications. The fish rots from the head. Just imagine that the blast took place at a market in your neighborhood - there wouldn't even be enough [blood] plasma at the local hospital, let alone everything else.

LJ user gagloyev, a Moscow-based Ossetian blogger, detected a similar note of detachment in PM Vladimir Putin's statement on the Vladikavkaz market attack:

"They have all they need OVER THERE..."?
These are the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin from his dialog with Russia's deputy minister of health care and social development Belov during today's [government] meeting (broadcast on all TV channels today).

A question: Mr. Putin doesn't consider North Ossetia part of the Russian Federation anymore?!

And this person wants to be the national leader?! [...]

Vladikavkaz-based LJ user alan_tskhurbaev wrote this, among other things, in a comment to LJ user gagloyev's post:

[...] All in all, why pick on their words when there are so many of their actions that we can be critical of [...].

LJ user firmozadasso commented (RUS) on the government's promise to pay 1 million rubles ($32,388) to the victims' families:

[...] Anyone needs a million in exchange for a family member's life?

One Radio Echo of Moscow commenter pointed out another financial aspect in the relations between North Caucasus and the rest of the Russian Federation, voicing his displeasure with the arrangement:

evgeniy_pak:

Does Russia need Caucasus at all?

Federal budget spending on the North Caucasus federal district - [annual] funding allotted per resident:

Kabardino-Balkariya - 12,000 rubles [$388]
Karachaevo-Cherkesiya - 13,000 rubles [$421]
Dagestan - 14,000 rubles [$453]
Ingushetia - 27,000 rubles [$874]
North Ossetia-Alania - 12,000 rubles [$388]
Stavropol region - 6,000 rubles [$194]
Chechnya - 48,000 rubles [$1,554]

Average spending on residents elsewhere in Russia - 6,000 rubles [$194]

There are good people living over there (and the majority doesn't even suspect how profitable this business - the Federation - is), but isn't it time to [stop it]? Is there no other way to spend billions?

LJ user chuchundrrra, in a comment to LJ user dondzendervish's post (RUS) on the alleged involvement of fighters from the neighboring Ingushetia in Thursday's bombing, explained the connection between federal budget spendings, corruption and terrorism:

After each terrorist attack, the money starts flowing - flowing where? To ensure security. Have you noticed strengthened security? I haven't. So where does the money go? Into somebody's pockets. And what has to be done to make sure that the money in the pocket is in good supply? Right, more money should be given for a new terrorist attack. [...]

The volatile Ossetian-Ingush relationship has been another recurring theme following the market blast. LJ user dondzendervish wrote this in the post linked to above:

Terrorists do have an ethnicity. They do have last names. A Volga [car] with the Ingush license plate. With the driver named Archiev, registered with Dobriev. Many people say that terrorists do not have an ethnicity, but why are they all from Ingushetia?!

It's time to set up a minefield, a tall electrified fence and watchtowers with machine gunners all along the perimeter [of the border] with Ingushetia. [...]

LJ user magas-dedyakov wrote (RUS):

[...] Close the border [with Ingushetia]. Completely. For five years, to begin with. Legalize border guarding by volunteers and [the Cossacks]. Allot salaries [to them].

Madina Sageeva wrote this (RUS) on the North Ossetian blogging portal region15.ru:

I know what has to be done to stop terror attacks in North Ossetia. Guests from Ingushetia have to be banned from entering the republic.

[...]

And if our neighbors start singing about their right to move freely around their beloved motherland - Russia - we can reply to them that the Ossetians have a right, too - the right to life.

[...]

[...] I'm not accusing all the Ingush people of [being involved in terrorism]. But, alas, the police officers at the checkpoint through which hundreds of Ingush are pushing their way into Vladikavkaz every day, cannot tell the terrorists just by looking at them. [...]

It would be good if the Ingush president came forward with such an initiative. [...]

LJ user kaloy (Kaloy Akhilgov, press secretary of Ingushetia's president Yunus-Bek Yevkurov) was planning to visit his grandfather's grave in the Ingush village of Dzheyrakh on the day of the bombing (which was also the first day of the Muslim holiday of Eid ul-Fitr) - and the best way to get there was by driving through Vladikavkaz. He wrote (RUS):

[...] The Ingush people are used by now that terrorist attacks in Vladikavkaz tend to turn into ordeals for them. Because any emergencies caused by explosions in Ossetia are tied to the Ingush, unfortunately. Perhaps, this happens subconsciously.

In any case, we decided not to drive through [Vladikavkaz]. Not because I'm afraid of the Ossetian cops [...]. But because I understand that one should not annoy the cops and the locals by having them see [Ingush license plates] [...].

We encounter [such violence] in our republic every day as well, and we understand perfectly well the pointlessness of [spilling innocent blood]. [...]

LJ user agunya - a Beslan survivor Agunda Vataeva, whose story was translated on GV on Sept. 4 - wrote (RUS):

A horrible provocation.

[...] I'm sick of seeing how we are being killed. I'm sick of being scared. I'm tired of calling all the relatives [...] with [a well-rehearsed speech]: "Are you ok? Is everything fine at home? No one is hurt?" No place to escape from this. Nowhere in the country.

[...]

I don't want to live in this country, in such a world. I hate the Ingush idiots who cheer other people's grief and are ready to dance on the bones and blood of the Ossetians [...]

[...]

My grandmother is Muslim, and I never say that all terrorists are Muslim, or that terror has an ethnicity. Terror has specific faces. And other people have to preserve human qualities, even if their enemies are being killed; they shouldn't cheer the deaths of innocent people. [...]

LJ user liza-valieva wrote this (RUS) in a follow-up post:

Because of the terrorist attack, all day today we've been getting calls, text messages and letters from friends in Moscow, Rostov, France, Italy, Slovakia, Turkey, Georgia and other places.

Friends, thank you for being there! Thank you for caring.

The things I've read today on the internet... Forums where Ingush were cheering the deaths of Ossetians [...], and Georgians were gloating along the lines "here you go, the Great Russia!", blogs where Russians were writing something like "Caucasus isn't Russia. The main thing is that this doesn't happen in the 'real' Russia, and who cares what's happening OVER THERE" [...].

After all this, it's hard not to get disappointed in people. That's why thanks again to those who care. It can happen to any of us. No one is safe.

Russia: North Ossetia's Superstitious Law Enforcement

Global Voices Online
Monday, May 25, 2009


LJ user liza-valieva - North Ossetian journalist Liza Valieva - writes (RUS) about an incident that could have prompted a lighthearted reaction had it not occurred in North Ossetia, an autonomous republic in the North Caucasus region of the Russian Federation, whose people have seen much violence since the collapse of the Soviet Union, including the Sept. 2004 Beslan school hostage crisis:

Terrorists have succeeded in achieving their goal: filling the people with fear. And in Ossetia, the record-setter in acts of terror, this isn't hard to do.

A schoolgirl's nightmare has caused panic in the law enforcement establishment. The girl said there'd be an explosion in a school on May 15. She explained that she had seen a dream in which coffins were being carried out of a school building.

As a result, "law enforcement officials have taken precautions. For the second day in a row, the school is being checked for explosives, with cynologists of North Ossetia's ministry of the interior involved in this work. The school is being guarded by the local police officers; police has been stationed at a kindergarten located near the school as well. Many parents refuse to bring their children to the kindergarten, fearing for their lives. So far, no explosives have been found inside the school." [In the original post, this paragraph contains a link to this news item (RUS) on the incident, published by Regnum news agency on May 14.]

Absurd. Would've been funny if it hadn't been so sad.

When the first blast took place in Ossetia at the central market, I was a university student. Nearly everyone in our group had the same dream then, in which the university exploded and we were trying to rescue ourselves in panic, seeing a sea of dead bodies, dismembered by the blast, and blood. But no one came to check the university building because of our dreams then. Though interior ministry officers and cynologists were indeed checking the buildings, but for a different reason: student pranksters were calling to say that the university had been mined.

People have grown so superstitious that they take dreams seriously. It's okay when people act this way, but the superstition of the law enforcement is surprising. Then again, it's good that they are reacting to the slightest of signals.


Here is one of the comments to this post - and Liza Valieva's response:

glazastikk:

You know, Liza, this isn't even funny. One can be practically 100-percent sure that they had known about the terror in Beslan in advance, and about other acts of terror as well. Terror has been and possibly remains convenient. So this alarm caused by a 15-year-old girl's dream - it's absurd. Are they trying to prove that they are on high alert? [...]

liza_valieva:

Of course, it's not funny. I was being sarcastic. The dream story is totally absurd. If our law enforcement officials are so prepared to [promptly react to the slightest threat], how come the number of acts of terror in North Ossetia isn't diminishing? For some reason, they are just totally incapable of foreseeing the real acts of terror. [...]

South Ossetia: Tskhinvali Photos and Reports

Global Voices Online
Friday, August 22, 2008


See Global Voices special coverage page on the South Ossetia crisis.

On Aug. 21, Columbia Journalism Review published Julia Ioffe's overview of several Russian journalists' blogging from the war in South Ossetia. Featured in her piece are reports by LJ user krig42 (Komsomolskaya Pravda reporter Dmitry Steshin) and LJ user ep-news (Evgeny Poddubny, correspondent for TV Center); also mentioned are LJ user m-romanoff (Mikhail Romanov, who, together with Ilya Barabanov - LJ user barabanch - contributed a story from Tskhinvali (RUS) to The New Times weekly) and Moskovsky Komsomolets correspondent Irina Kuksenkova.

Below are a few more blog posts from Russian and North Ossetian journalists, with photos and accounts of what they've seen in the South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali over the past week.

LJ user voinodel (Vadim Rechkalov, war correspondent for Moskovsky Komsomolets) posted seven photos of Tskhinvali, taken from different perspectives, and wrote this (RUS):

Meet Vitalik. He is my good friend who has come to defend South Ossetia right from [Khankala, a Russian military base near Grozny]. Vitalik and I will now take you on a little guided tour around the ruined Tskhinval.

[photos of Vitalik]

You can photograph Tskhinval like this:

[a close-up photo of two blown-up tanks next to a residential building]

Or like this:

[photo of the same two tanks from a different angle]

But if you photograph it like this?

[four panoramic shots of Tskhinvali taken from a hill overlooking the city]


There are four pages of comments to Rechkalov's post. At one point, the journalist found it necessary to explain the point he was trying to make (RUS) when he posted the photos:

This post has only one message, totally intentional and clearly defined. In case someone has forgotten the information of the first two days. When Tskhinval was called the second [Stalingrad] and it was said that the city no longer exists. And all that.

[...]

I've a feeling that some [of the commenters who care so much about the Motherland] would be happy to see nothing but foundations [of the buildings] in these shots. What's wrong with you, guys? Are you crazy? Have you yourselves ever lived on [nothing but] a foundation? And have you washed yourself from a cup, along with your whole family? If 2,000 dead bodies haven't been confirmed, but, say, only 300 have - don't you like that? You need 2,000? Or, even better, 10,000? So that you could [strike] at Georgians in full force? But is that you who's gonna fight with them? Soldier Bogdanov will [...]. And you'll go on [posting comments], unaware that among those who defended Tskhinval were Georgians, too, and they were good fighters, and people respect them. Because one's ethnicity has nothing to do with it.

There's one message in this post - Tskhinval isn't Stalingrad. And you shouldn't use such words as Stalingrad in vain. [...]


LJ user pro100_petrov posted eight photos from Tskhinvali and wrote (RUS):

[...] In a nutshell: yes, the phrase "has been erased from the face of the earth" is an exaggeration when applied to this city. There are buildings that haven't been damaged too much. Now that they've replaced the windows in them, they look the way they did before the war.

[photo]

But in general the city looks like this:

[three photos, the last one is of a Tskhinvali school]

[photo of Hotel Alan: "Journalists were hiding in the basement here. [...] Damage is significant."]

[photo of a ruined house: "And this, they say, is the result of [Grad multiple-launch rocket system]. Hey, military folks! Is this really Grad?"]

[photo of a tank: "A blown-up Georgian tank. Lots of stuff like this all over the city. Next to the tank, there's a dead Georgian lying in the bushes. Many of them there, too. [...]"]

[photo of people on and around a tank: "Ossetian irregulars. Having their pictures taken with non-working mobile phones next to blown-up tanks."]


LJ user alan_tskhurbaev (North Ossetian journalist Alan Tskhurbaev) had this conversation (RUS) about the level of destruction in Tskhinvali with LJ user pro100-petrov in the comment section to one of his posts:

pro100_petrov:

[...] High-rises in the southern part [of the city] have indeed been damaged severely. But I wouldn't say that only half of the buildings are uninhabitable. I think it's 70-80 percent. Depends on what you consider inhabitable. If a missile makes a hole in the building's wall, but the basement and one room are intact - is this called inhabitable or not?

alan_tskhurbaev:

Yes, this isn't an easy question. Let's say there is a large nine-story building, with a huge hole under the roof, made by a missile. People live in this building, many of them. Should this building be considered destroyed or uninhabitable - or not? Especially when it's likely that the hole has been there since 1991.

But the main thing is that to me Tskhinval looked like a living city, not deserted and not destroyed, as it had been described in the media.


LJ user slonopatam posted a picture of two elderly women posing next to a blown-up tank in downtown Tskhinvali. LJ user butttto commented:

Life goes on... The old people know this better than the young ones...


LJ user liza-valieva (North Ossetian journalist Liza Valieva) posted three photos and wrote this (RUS) about the cleanup efforts in Tskhinvali:

[photo]

One of the first pictures taken in Tskhinval. Georgian prisoners, along with Tskhinvali residents, are cleaning up the city.

As one of the officials of South Ossetia's ministry of internal affairs told me, Georgian prisoners were allowed to wash themselves, were fed and then taken to clean Tskhinval and the surrounding areas. "Let them clean up the mess created by their fellow countrymen," he said.

I think it's a wise decision.

[photo]

I entered one of the first stores that re-opened in Tskhinval, where there was nothing but colored balloons, ketchup and mayo. The vendors were having a lively discussion about something. One of them said this to me in dismay:

[photo]

- Have you seen the Georgian prisoners who are cleaning up out there? If any of my relatives were killed, I'd go and kill one of them.

- They deserve pity, too, - I said, and immediately regretted having said it. I imagined the fury that would befall me. But, to my surprise, it did not happen, she agreed with me right away.

- Yes, I understand, they deserve pity, too.