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Russia: Yegor Gaidar, Russia's Economic Reformer, Dies at 53

Global Voices Online
Saturday, December 19, 2009


Yegor Gaidar, a Russian economist and politician who initiated the 1992 "shock therapy" reforms following the collapse of the Soviet Union, died on Wednesday in Moscow at the age of 53. Initial reports said the cause of death was a blood clot; on Dec. 17, Maria Gaidar, Yegor Gaidar's daughter, announced on her blog (RUS) that it had been a heart attack.

In the obituary published in The Economist on Dec. 16, Gaidar is described as someone who, along with "his team," "demolished the Soviet economy and laid the foundations of capitalism in Russia," by pushing "astonishingly risky" economic reforms, which turned out to be "right but unpopular":

[...] Too much shock, not enough therapy, people complained. In the years that followed, life expectancy plunged further, public services frayed and output plummetted. But much of that was the grim legacy of Soviet misrule. Other things began to work much better. Given the disaster that he inherited, Mr Gaidar’s record still looks pretty good. [...]


Russian bloggers immediately reacted to the news of Gaidar's death, and their responses serve as a vivid reflection of how divided the Russian public still is on his legacy and the direction the country has taken since the demise of the Soviet Union. Gaidar spent the past decade largely outside the public spotlight, involved in academic work and writing, but he remained a hugely symbolic figure nevertheless: a highly esteemed hero to some of his compatriots and a reviled scapegoat to others. It is impossible to conclude which prevailed in the blogosphere on the day he died - praise and genuine sadness, or curses and inappropriately gleeful satisfaction - but there was definitely plenty of both.

In a way, LJ user faibisovich puts it best (RUS):

[...] Just as [Boris Yeltsin]'s death, the death of Gaidar is an extremely powerful litmus test, an instant photo of the consciousness of the country, its public figures and the not-so-prominent people. [...]


Below is a selection of Russian bloggers' reactions to Yegor Gaidar's death (translated from Russian).

LJ user viking-nord:

[...] He did indeed rescue us from humiliation, from fights for a loaf of bread... The majority doesn't think highly of it, which characterizes not Gaidar, but this majority. [...]


LJ user afrikane3:

[...] He was faced with an extremely difficult task, something that no one in the world had ever done before him - from a fried eggs meal, to re-assemble a live egg on the molecular level. Did he do it clumsily? Yes, it was clumsy. Yes, a tractor rode over people's destinies. In our family, too, in the early 90s, there were no other words but curses directed at [Gaidar]. But on the other hand, there was no alternative, either.

[...]

Have you been to Yugoslavia? No? Go there, talk to the people, they'll tell you many interesting things about the "Great Serb" [Slobodan Milošević] and his allies. And they'll also tell you how people were burnt alive and forced to drink urine brewed with cigarette butts.

All this despite the fact that [Yugoslavia] was a much more cultured and European country, with agriculture that remained intact, with a developed consumer goods production, with roads and service!

Taking into account our backwardness and wildness, as well as the size of the Soviet Union - this would have been some 6-7 million of dead bodies.

So maybe he has saved these 6-7 million people - and not "robbed the old ladies"? [...]


LJ user hasid:

Had Gaidar died between 1993-95, there would have been no need to feel sorry. But today, there is - because now we've got someone to compare him with - basically, the inanimate objects in office.

And he should also be given credit for not falling so low as to start "eating children" - despite being in an environment that favored that. He had managed to restrain himself.

Eternal memory.


Here's part of a discussion in the comments section to the post quoted above:

pivovaroffs:

"because now we've got someone to compare him with"

I don't know what's a good comparison for a person who had promised a threefold price hike but ended up initiating a 2,500% inflation. This makes even the events of [the 1998 financial crisis in Russia] dim by comparison.

[...]

hasid:

[Nikita Khrushchev] promised communism by 1980 to you, [Mikhail Gorbachev] promised a separate apartment to everyone by 2000, [Vladimir Putin] promised to catch up with Portugal by 2010.

Do you believe all the czars?

pivovaroffs:

These are promises of different kinds. Those czars were promising lifestyle improvements - and they kept these promises at least in part.

Gaidar was promising a deterioration - and he well exceeded on this promise [...].

hasid:

Because he was honest, that's why.


LJ user rusanalit:

[...] Gaidar and Yeltsin are blamed for rendering worthless people's savings deposits at [Sberbank].

I'll note two things.

Thing #1. Sberbank of the USSR was bankrupt by 1992 - it had handed out over 90 percent of the accumulated funds to [Gosbank] of the USSR, which, in turn, handed out most of that in the form of loans to the Soviet budget. From formal bankruptcy Sberbank of the USSR was saved by the 1991-92 hyperinflation only, which also erased to dust the purchasing power of the savings.

Thing #2. Most of the depositors' losses happened in the pre-Gaidar 1991, when prices rose 150 percent. That is, the purchasing power of savings fell by 60 percent. Then the 1992 inflation cut the [remaining] savings tenfold. That is, in 1991, depositors parted with 60 percent of their savings, and in 1992 - with 36 percent.

Anyway, if you are remembering Gaidar [unkindly], then the Soviet prime minister [Valentin Pavlov], a communist, should precede him. [...]


LJ user knup_ru wrote this in the ru_politics LJ community:

[...] I've noticed that only communists are criticizing Gaidar openly. The rest are either praising him or carefully acknowledge his role in the Russian history.


It's not only the economic reforms that Gaidar is remembered unfavorably for by some Russian citizens. LJ user ingushetia-ru, for instance, brought up the Ossetian-Ingush conflict of 1992, at the time of which Gaidar served as first deputy prime minister of Russia. Writing on behalf of the Ingush population, ingushetia-ru concludes:

[...] All in all, so many curses are pouring at the deceased from all over the country, that one more - from the Ingush people - is simply drowning in the general mass of it...


And then there was also the "constitutional crisis" of October 1993 in Russia - "a political stand-off between the Russian president and the Russian parliament that was resolved by using military force." Gaidar, who had been Russia's acting PM from June to December 1992, was Russia's first deputy prime minister again then. On the day he died, at least two bloggers posted a YouTube video (RUS) of his Oct. 3, 1993, TV address to the Russian citizens, in which he, among other things, described the "opposite side" as heavily-armed "bandits" and "revanchists" and called Muscovites to gather in downtown Moscow to "prevent turning the country into a huge concentration camp for decades again."

One of the bloggers (LJ user gunter_spb) posted this video in the ru_politics LJ community, questioning Gaidar's "morality" - and while some readers seemed to share his scorn for Gaidar, others didn't:

garden_vlad:

A faithful servant of the [nomenklatura, the ruling class] and a Russophobe

***

agitator_mass:

Have listened carefully. Recalled that time. Am ready to sign under every single phrase.


Another blogger who chose to highlight Gaidar's 1993 address is LJ user cook. Here is what he wrote in his tribute to Gaidar:

Sometimes - very rarely - people appear in the human mass who are truly capable of assuming responsibility in a decisive moment.

Yegor Gaidar had been given this amazing and tragic gift in abundance: he was ready to act and to be held responsible for his actions. Again and again, he was taking upon himself what was most difficult, most unrewarding, and, sometimes, truly unbearable.

Here, have a look: a horrible moment, when a person meets his fate. Calmly, with dignity and with understanding of the real weight of the burden that he had been allotted.

[video]

This is what an act of bravery is. One of the feats that he has accomplished.

Eternal memory and eternal gratitude to Yegor Gaidar.


Below are a few more reflections on Gaidar, by people who used to know him personally in one way or another.

LJ user mikhail62, a journalist, was on the same train to St. Petersburg with Gaidar in late 1995; he spent a couple hours talking to him, had him sign a recently-published book and interviewed him:

[...] Gaidar changed into travel clothes once on the train - he put on an old shirt - worn-out, with marks left by a ballpoint pen near a small pocket. And all the buttons on his stomach had been sewn on anew. They differed in size and color, and the threads used were different, too...

And when I used to think of Yegor Timurovich, I kept seeing these different buttons and pen marks on an old shirt of a man who had transformed the economy. [...]


Irina Yasina (LJ user yasina), an economist and a journalist, was the last person to interview Gaidar. On her blog, she wrote:

The main thing that Yegor Timurovich had taught me was to work for the country, not for the regime. I kept asking him many times beginning from 2003: Why are you helping THEM? And he used to tell me that he had lived through one catastrophe - a collapse of his own country - and he doesn't want something like this to happen again.

- Irochka, I do remember what it's like when there's just enough flour in Moscow for three days and in Leningrad for two! And this is what matters. To wish well not to the regime, but to the country in which you are living, having children and waiting for grandchildren.

God, such brains, such skills and knowledge - and no one basically had any need for them in the last years...


Below is a video (RUS, 15:22) of Yasina's last interview with Gaidar, recorded on Dec. 15, just one day before he died, at RIA Novosti news agency in Moscow:



Finally, here is some of what Gaidar's daughter Maria (LJ user m-gaidar; a political activist, currently serving as deputy governor of Kirov region) wrote on Dec. 17 on her blog:

[...] The death occurred between 2AM and 6AM, and, most likely, he didn't realize what happened. I saw it - his face was absolutely calm. He died at home, had been in a wonderful mood before that, had some meetings scheduled for the following day, had been working.

It is extremely difficult to see books and papers that he had been reading just a short time ago, and his notes that had just been written with his hand.

I am very happy that we had had a chance to see each other and to have a wonderful talk (he packed a whole sack of books for me to read), that he was home in a good mood, in a good condition, that he died peacefully, and that I happened to be in Moscow when I learned about it, because I was passing through to Kirov from Stavropol region. [...]

Russia: "Completely Different Other Russias"

Global Voices Online
Wednesday, June 27, 2007



Riot police just off Pushkinskaya Square in Moscow during the June 11 Dissenters' March - photo by LJ user msmetana

On Dec. 6, 2006, Maria Gaidar, leader of the Da! ("Yes!") youth movement and daughter of former acting premier Yegor Gaidar, and Ilya Yashin, leader of the youth wing of Grigory Yavlinsky's Yabloko party, featured in a Global Voices translation that dealt with their intrepid attempt to protest a bill that abolished minimum voter turnout (20 percent) for all elections in Russia: they had spent an hour and a half suspended on ropes from a Moscow bridge facing the Kremlin, flying a 10-meter banner that said: "GIVE THE ELECTION BACK TO THE PEOPLE, BASTARDS!"

Earlier this month, following the June 11 Dissenters' March in Moscow, both Gaidar and Yashin briefly found themselves in the Russian blogosphere's spotlight again - and here's why.

There was no police "overreaction" during the opposition's latest Dissenters' March in Russia's capital - possibly, because the organizers decided not to follow up the rally on Pushkinskaya Square with the actual marching. Everyone made their speeches - or so it seemed, until the blogosphere offered a not-so-pleasant revelation: Maria Gaidar was prevented from addressing the crowd by, allegedly, Eduard Limonov, leader of the National Bolshevik Party (NBP) and Garry Kasparov's close ally in the Other Russia anti-government coalition.

Ilya Yashin (LJ user yashin) happened to be among the first whistleblowers when he wrote this (RUS) on his blog on June 12:

Attended the Dissenters' March yesterday.

To be honest, I'm not very happy. Too many hammers and sickles, too many [Russian Imperial flags], too many fervent "Long live Russia" chants... Some guy was saying from the stage that "democracy ended in 1991" - and was booed by part of the crowd. And when the [National Bolsheviks] started yelling "Russia is all, the rest is nothing," my mood was ruined completely.

But I do not regret having attended. And I'll come next time, too. First, because it's stifling in the country, and the Dissenters' March has the spirit of freedom. Second, after the April beatings it was impossible not to come.

I'd like to say a few words about the following.

[Maria Gaidar] was supposed to speak at yesterday's rally. Half an hour before the beginning, both she and I were offered to say something by the organizers. But Eduard Limonov learned about it and issued an ultimatum: if they let Mashka speak, he's leaving. The organizers apologized to Gaidar and she ended up without an opportunity to make an address.

So here goes. Eduard Veniaminovich, you... how to say this politely?.. you are taking too much upon yourself.

Have you forgotten what you were yesterday? Have you forgotten about Stalin-Beriya-Gulag? About how you were calling Yeltsin to initiate bloodshed in Chechnya? About how you demanded the dispersal of anti-war rallies of the 1990s?

We are going against our principles after this, when we stand next to you on stage and tolerate your emblems, which imitate Hitler's banners.

And you should appreciate it that many people believe that you really do not subscribe to your past cannibalistic convictions anymore.

Respect the people, Eduard Veniaminovich.


Maria Gaidar (LJ user m_gaidar) offered her perspective (RUS) on the incident on June 13:

I feel obliged to comment on the situation, since a scandal has broken out because of my failure to speak at the Dissenters' March.

Before the rally, Aleksandr Osovtsev came up to me and suggested that I speak. I agreed. About five minutes before the rally began, he apologized and said that Limonov is categorically against my address, that he had threatened to leave.

I am not part of the Other Russia, nor was I one of the organizers of this rally, and I think that the organizers have the right to decide who will speak and who won't. I didn't want to [make this incident public] because I knew that everyone would immediately attack the Other Russia and the Dissenters' Marches. That's why I only told several people about it, those I came there with, those who knew that I was to speak at the rally. And I asked not to spread this information...

It's a pity that this ugly episode has become public.

I, like many of you, am not comfortable with Limonov. I'm not comfortable with their emblem, with their rhetoric. I'm not comfortable when those on stage say that democracy ended in 1991 and yell that "Russia is all, the rest is nothing." The only reason I try to ignore this is because there are real political prisoners in the ranks of NBP. These people are in jail for this slogan: "Respect our Constitution."

The traditional myth circulated by the [National Bolsheviks] is that [they] are the vanguard of the marches. We held a rally two years ago, also on June 12. There was no Limonov there - but there were as many people (or even more). I am absolutely convinced that the main body of the marches is made up of the liberal-democratic public that has to make quite an effort to tolerate Limonov.

But! Right now, the Dissenters' March is the main oppositional platform. And not because Limonov and NBP are there, but because people who wish to express their protest come there - and no one except the organizers of the marches offers them such an opportunity. If you want to organize the Dissenters' Marches without Limonov - just do it.

The Dissenters' Marches are not controlled by the Kremlin, at least. That's why I suggest that we, first of all, fight against Putin's bloody regime (TM), and not against Limonov, no matter what he does.

[...]


Yashin posted another comment (RUS) on the situation, also on June 13:

A few more words on yesterday's discussion on Limonov. Please believe me, I'm not trying to exacerbate the contradictions, but there are important issues that shouldn't be ignored.

So here. I ran into a couple of comments by NBP activists regarding the situation.

New York-based (!) [National Bolshevik] Sasha Lenina writes:

[National Bolsheviks] are not renouncing any of their views. Those who carried out the "shock therapy" are in for "stalin, beriya, gulag." Ichkeriya will be cleansed according to Beriya's method.

The whole active of the marches are the [National Bolsheviks]. You can dislike Limonov. And it's natural that your associates (the liberal part of the Other Russia, the real cannibals) are the ones who can't stand him. But do they really have a choice?


And Moscow-based [National Bolshevik] Pavel Zherebin continues his colleague's thought:

It's simple: you keep silent about Yeltsin, your favorite USA and "Israel," about the Russian "fascism," about your support of gay pride parades, about the totalitarian [Soviet state], about the fight against international terrorism, about Lukashenko, etc. Then we'll keep from voicing our opinions on these issues, too, and will concentrate on the criticism of Putin's regime.

The rest of it we'll discuss in the Parliament of the Free Other Russia.

[...] [Let the likes of Maria Gaidar] act in "Israel." It's Russia here, even though it's [the Other Russia].


Listen to me carefully, friends.

I've been involved in politics since 2000, joined Yabloko in 2001. In these seven years, I've never renounced a single slogan of mine. All that I said, all that I believed in seven years ago is still relevant for me today.

And you, [National Bolsheviks], have gone a long way during this time. You've publicly renounced the cannibalistic slogans, you've changed your program and are using my - liberal - slogans.

Your comrades are behind bars not for their "Stalin-Beriya-Gulag" - but for [Andrei Sakharov]'s "Respect the Constitution" addressed to the presidential administration. And through this your comrades have earned everyone's respect.

Today you declare your support for the fight for the free election, for independent courts and against censorship of the mass media.

First of all, I'd like to remind you that all these values were born thanks to the ideologues of the liberal movement, which I'm honored to belong to. Today, all the adequate ideological movements (conservatives, social democrats, and all the rest) accept these values as the fundamental ones. And it is these values that have earned the liberal ideology its right to exist and a place in history. And you have to respect this.

Second, you can't fight for civil rights and freedoms while also keeping your "traditional" National Bolshevik convictions. It's impossible to simultaneously "torture and hang, hang and torture" and demand fair elections to the independent parliament. [...]

I find it offensive to hear slogans like "Russia is all, the rest is nothing" at a rally I'm taking part in (this is how it was at the latest March). This isn't patriotism, it's pure Nazism. Patriotism is the love for your country and respect for other countries and cultures. Nazism is the propaganda of the national superiority and contempt for those around you.

And one more thing. It's hard to accuse me of being [against Limonov]. You know that I've taken part in rallies to support NBP's political prisoners more than once, and I wrote letters to judges, and I helped your lawyers [...]. I really respect many [National Bolsheviks] and consider them decent people, and some - real heroes.

But you'll have to renounce all the ugly stuff that you propagated in 1990s. Otherwise, guys, we have completely different other Russias with you.


Soon after Yashin blogged about his views, members of the "adult wing" of Yabloko spoke against any kind of alliance with the Other Russia and announced their intention to nominate Grigory Yavlinsky as their 2008 presidential candidate - a move that, among other things, further emphasized the Russian opposition's famous lack of unity.

Russia: Dissenters' March in Moscow (1)

Global Voices Online
Tuesday, April 17, 2007


The volume of blog coverage of the weekend's rallies in Moscow and St. Petersburg is truly overwhelming - as overwhelming, perhaps, as the number of riot police (OMON) deployed from all over Russia to disperse the opposition's Dissenters' March. But nowhere near as shocking.

Below is the first installment of links, accompanied with snippets of text translated from Russian. (Please note that many entries - arranged in no particular order - link to bandwidth-intensive content.)

- LJ user mnog (photos):

Don't feel like writing.

Photos (more than 50 (about 6 MB) )


- LJ user insie (other bloggers' photos, text):

[...] In the backyards near Tverskaya, I was surprised to discover little streams of people, who chose this path as the best, just like I did. In the backyards closer to Pushkinskaya, I saw trucks with OMON, police officers giving threatening orders via walkie-talkies, fire trucks and an ambulance. People walking nearby were on their cell phones, saying something like this: "See you later, unless I get detained." Made me feel uncomfortable. [...]


- LJ user serni (photos, video, text):

Disclaimer: I was present at the Dissenters' March out of curiousity only.

[...] When people moved forward, trying to break through, yelling, "There are more of us," the regime's forces produced sticks right away and started beating everyone who was in their way. It was the first time that I saw the enraged OMON fighters, walking towards me with sticks in front of them, beating everyone left and right. By miracle, I avoided the blows. It felt like a parachute dive. [...]


- LJ user dolboeb (photos, text):

Some OMON fighters, in the Ninja Turtles' outfits, looked appropriately intimidating and photogenic, but the pointlessness of their being there, their walking back and forth, seemed to tire both them and the audience. [...] As background for portrait shooting, the police looked great, I think.


- LJ user plushev (photos, text):

[...] We only got there at the very end of the rally, when they were no longer detaining or beating anyone - all were polite and respectful. The main and, basically, the only impression that I had the time to get was that they send A LOT OF young [police] women to work at rallies. Students of the police school, that is. Many were very beautiful, even in their ugly uniforms. Didn't manage to get a close shot of anyone - [my camera is too slow], and the girls were shy, they were turning away and asking not to photograph them.


- LJ user m_gaidar (text):

When they were taking me away, I called 02 [an equivalent of 911] and told them that I and a group of 20 people have been unlawfully kidnapped by people in uniform. The girl [operator] got very frightened and asked: "Where are you?" In a bus near Pushkinskaya, I replied, and the girl just hung up on me. I called again and asked her to introduce herself and register my call, because people in camouflage were taking us all in an unknown direction. She asked again where we were detained. I said, on Pushkinskaya, and she sign with evident relief and said: "Well... you know... here... We are just having a special operation there! Nothing to be scared of." A special operation against whom - against me?!!!!!! And what do you mean it's nothing to be scared of - for whom nothing scary? For you or for whom?!!! The girl was definitely feeling uncomfortable... said, please call the boss [starshiy]. "What boss?" I asked. "The one in camouflage," she replied. Okay, I see, you are all together in it, I said and hung up on her myself this time.

Anyway, I've now got a phone call from the prosecutor's office and they invited me to come tomorrow at noon to 19 Petrovka, to Boluchevskiy Sergei Anatolyevich and answer questions about my phone call. I said I'd come with journalists and a lawyer. They replied: "Yes, sure! Come with whoever you want..." Anyway, if anyone want to come along - write me. [...]


[A RIA-Novosti photo of m_gaidar's detention is here.]

- LJ user okalman (text):

I'm going to the March tomorrow... For many reasons. I disagree with the Other Russia, too, among other things, but I'm still going. [...] I don't like Kasyanov, nor do I like Kasparov, and even less so do I like Limonov. But if in the 1990s everyone wisely concluded that Yeltsin was a [Communist] party official and why would I go to the White House "for Yeltsin"? - then we'd still be living under Communists. [...]

Russia: Stunt Protests and the Law

Global Voices Online
Wednesday, December 6, 2006


On Nov. 17, the Russian Duma approved a bill that abolished minimum voter turnout (20 percent) for all elections in Russia. Today, president Vladimir Putin has signed it into law.

On Nov. 23, two young political activists - Ilya Yashin and Maria Gaidar - protested the imminent change by spending an hour and a half suspended on ropes from a Moscow bridge facing the Kremlin and flying a 10-meter banner, which said: "GIVE THE ELECTION BACK TO THE PEOPLE, BASTARDS!"

Yashin (LJ user yashin) and Gaidar (LJ user m-gaidar) were taken off the bridge by the emergency services, detained by the police and fined 500 rubles (about $20) each by the court.

LJ user 50x50 posted a photo report on the stunt protest; Very Russian provided a link to the video on RuTube.ru.

Gaidar - coordinator of the Da! ("Yes!") movement and daughter of former acting premier Yegor Gaidar - posted a brief note on the court's decision to fine her and Yashin, and here're some of the responses she got (RUS):

[...]

kreatiff: You should've dealt with them on the spot - would've cost you 200... and you'd have avoided having your driver's license punched ))))

prava3: You can start a business. 1,000 rubles for the right to hang over the Moscow River, 500 to the state, the rest to the businessman. :) A joke. In reality, all's well that ends well.

mendkovich: Well, you're lucky. Certain people had a criminal case opened against them for similar actions.

nah42: Oh great. [Spoiled, overfed] kids of the famous parents get a free ride. And for the ordinary mortals - jail. Everything's as always. [...]

domohozjayka: Do they all have to be sent to jail or what? In your anger and jealousy you forget that if you personally don't need the election, there are others who think differently.

harding1989: Right. Of course, the election would come back on its own because two members of the "golden youth" decided to hang over the river. Like waving a magic wand. The law is the same for everyone.


In the discussion above, two LJ users hint at another case, in which the components were the same and the outcome different: in May 2006, Olga Kudrina, a member of Eduard Limonov's National Bolshevik Party, was sentenced to three and a half years in prison for climbing the Rossiya Hotel and hanging a banner saying "Putin, go away on your own" on the side facing the Kremlin.

Yashin - who heads the youth wing of the Yabloko Party - pointed out the injustice by writing an emotional open letter (RUS) to Sergei Podoprigorov, the judge who had sentenced Kudrina:

[...]

I'm not going to raise the morality side of the issue - there's no point, I'm sure. If it's so easy for you to ruin the young people's lives just because of their civil position, then calling to your conscience is a waste of time.

[...]

It's obvious that Judge Pugachev [who fined Yashin and Gaidar] made his decision on the basis of the law and common sense. But what was guiding you, Sergei Gennadievich, when you didn't think twice before sending people my age behind bars for a similar violation?

What was happening in your head when you were signing the verdict?

I can see one and only reason for your decision: you are nothing but a coward. Of course, they were calling you and demanding to jail Kudrina [...]. Of course, you were shaking over the verdict in your tiny [study]. Of course, you realized that by sending the guys to jail you'd commit a crime, but letting them go would deprive you of your warm chair.

I demand that you admit publicly that you were wrong and resign. People like you are a shame to Russia's judicial corps. And if you think that your Kremlin bosses would safe you from inevitable responsibility for your crime - don't count on that.

You'll get as much as you deserve.

[...]


Below are a few reactions (RUS):

[...]

arkashamos: Perhaps the reason is that you, Ilya, are the leader of the youth "Yabloko" and Masha Gaidar is Yegor Gaidar's daughter. If they sent you to jail for three years, there'd be lots of noise in Russia and the world. And who knows [...] that girl? Only her party comrades and Edichka Limonov, who, absolutely obviously, doesn't give a crap about those boys and girls that he had attracted [to his party].

yashin: This is what selective use of law is.

sorex: I agree. By the way, are you ready to [go to jail]?

[...]

newreft: Khodorkovsky has been sent to the colony for eight years. There was noise in Russia (meetings took place in almost all big cities, although not too many people attended). There was even more noise [outside Russia]. So what? Has it had any effect? It would have been the same with Ilya and Masha. So this is not the reason.